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<title>Going deeper (Ian Glendinning)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>Interesting how these basic forms of language keep rearing their heads. Taking a straightforward question and adding an adverb / adjective, turning it into a rhetorical question that makes a point unrelated to the basic purpose of the question - to elicit an answer.</p>

<p>I would guess in the host / participant hierarchical case, one way to add the drama without making the (accidental) rhetorical point at the expense of the participant is to adopt the "What to "we" really mean by X ..." language - level any hierarchy. Though again a sophisticated audience will soon see that as thin disguise for "I know better ..."</p>]]>
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<title>Going deeper (Carol Schindler)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>I too have found myself in that "effortful position".<br />
Spent way too much of my life there in general. <br />
If I can recognize in the moment that that is where I am, I can usually breathe my way out of it.  Then I can wait and watch what unfolds. It is always more exciting than what I was efforting.</p>]]>
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<![CDATA[<p>This I absolutely recognise. I find myself guilty as charged of the obsessive, effortful, portentous waiting thing. Note to self...</p>]]>
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<![CDATA[<p>Hi Johnnie,</p>

<p>'really' like this post.</p>

<p>A slightly less dramatic casting of the question, (which appeals to my inability to ever have just one answer to a question) is:</p>

<p>"is there anything else you want to say about why you're here?"</p>

<p>or something like that.</p>

<p>Not implying a hierarchy of answers, where one is more 'real' than another, but acknowledging the multiplicity of motivation / purpose.</p>]]>
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<title>Disrespectful, disruptive innovation (Penny Walker)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>I'm no fan of Ryan Air either.  Low-cost air travel just can't have a place in sustainable, low-carbon future. Wish he'd put his fabulous energy and iconclasm into that challenge, instead. </p>

<p>However, have to agree with him about EC and how bonkers their bureaucracy is. I had them as a client once (never again) and had to go to Venice. Their rules on which flights they would reimburse would have added hours to my journey as couldn't fly from closest airport but only from their approved one. </p>

<p>(Glad I've given up flying, even though it cuts out lots of interesting work.)</p>]]>
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<title>The Tyranny of Excellence (BrianSJ)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>The safety-critical industries meet this sort of problem a lot, and it is largely unresolved. Dave Woods' 'cycle of error' is in the .pdf http://www.ctlab.org/documents/briefLookAtTheNewLookVerAA.doc.pdf </p>

<p>(there is some great material at www.ctlab.org BTW). The answer in these industries is expressed in terms such as resilience and 'making safety' rather than improv but making it happen ain't easy.</p>]]>
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<title>The Three Tyrannies (Rob Paterson)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>I am just starting Kettlebell training - and all 3 of these tyrannies are in play.</p>

<p>Trying too hard - thinking too much - being hard on myself for being such a klutz</p>

<p>Fuck!</p>

<p>It's hard to let go</p>]]>
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<title>The Tyranny of Excellence (dwighttowers)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>love the failure/floundering distinction.</p>

<p>Somewhere John Dewey, the american educational theorist,says the crucial thing is not to avoid mistakes, but to make sure they happen in such a way that they can be useful learning opportunities....</p>

<p>But we are rewarded for not making (which means covering up!) mistakes.  And then we get scared of making them and....</p>

<p>Me, I'm a "push the fucker out the door. Next!!" kinda guy.  But don't always systematically reflect/post-mortem.  I try to sub-contract that out, as the owner of this very blog knows.  :)</p>]]>
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<title>Failure of process or good starting point? (Matt Kinsella)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>I think both these statements is true which is obviously your point but I have fallen asleep during a few PowerPoint presentations. I personally try to actively engage in a free flowing "talk" and conversations when I present anything. It is always important to stick to the key points and keep it engaging no matter how you present something.</p>]]>
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<![CDATA[<p>'The answer to how is yes' (Peter Block)</p>]]>
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<![CDATA[<p>So exciting that you are coming!  My dad and I will be travelling back to London for a few days afterwards, and staying in Hertford.  Perhaps we'll have a chance to catch up there too.</p>]]>
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<title>Structureless? (Johnnie Moore)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>Yes, great comments</p>]]>
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<title>Structureless? (annette)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>Interesting piece - but there's another layer to all of this which isn't mentioned - the unconscious, which, despite all our best efforts gets in the mix and undermines the rational and reasoned attempts to be inclusive etc etc...</p>]]>
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<title>Structureless? (Earl Mardle)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>Couple of things. The points Rhizome and Ivan make are valid but they also overlook the other reality of social and economic progress.</p>

<p>Slavery was not ended by slaves, nor child labour by children, the powerless find it very difficult to seize power and usually have to do it with serious violence. Yes the OWS people are privileged and it is their obligation as privileged people to act, in essence, because they can.</p>

<p>The lack of apparent structure does, and will, lead to informalised relationships that are therefore unaccountable and opaque. But the huge advantage that the lack of structure offers is that there is nobody with whom TPTB can "negotiate", nobody they can take into a smoke-filled room and bribe, blackmail or beat into submission. The only place the conversation and the negotiation can take place is in the full glare of the public space.</p>

<p>As long as OWS can refrain from trying to make policy or specific operational demands they will be able to remain at least reasonably public.</p>

<p>Their job is not to demand particular actions, it is to demand particular results. The only people who can take any action are those with the power. But they wont get any kudos for the action, only the results will matter.</p>

<p>SERIOUSLY interesting times.</p>]]>
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<title>Life on the edge of parenthesis... (Johnnie Moore)</title>
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<![CDATA[<p>Hi Luc: We might have to invent such a game. I'll need to reflect on the conditions that prompt me to ask questions that turn out to be helpful.</p>

<p>There is a fun improv game where you have to hold a conversation  where everything is a question... it's entertaining but probably not quite what you're after here!</p>]]>
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