Johnnie Moore


Johnnie Moore

Johnnie Moore

I’m Johnnie Moore, and I help people work better together

There’s an interesting discussion going on at Chris Carfi’s blog provoked by his post, Lie la Lie. The reference to The Boxer by Simon and Garfunkel is made more relevant by the sprited fight that follows in the comments.

Chris challenges the underlying principles he sees in Seth Godin’s All Marketers are Liars (briefly citing my earlier post about the book). Seth comments back pithily as do a few others.

I see wisdom on both sides here. I also felt uncomfortable that Seth’s book may seem like a licence for manipulation and support mindless consumption. Equally, I think he raises good questions on what we think the truth is; he may not answer those questions but then I’m not sure anyone can. Seth is good at provoking debate, which I like. Christopher is good at demanding depth and conscience in marketing, which I also like.

Some of it is really good – including some nice reincorporation of Simon and Garfunkel lyrics by Ed Brenegar. Reading some of the other comments feels a bit like watching lawyers nitpicking, with forensic examination of quotations leading to a game of NIGYYSOB (from Transactional Analysis: Now I’ve Got You, You Son of a Bitch). Overall it’s much the best debate about the book I’ve seen.

Chris is arguing for authenticity and I like that. I’ve written a lot about it myself, though not so much lately – because it’s so hard to define and because it’s easy to end up sounding pious. Thank God for Doc Searls‘ endorsement of blogging as open-ended as I’m not feeling able to reach any rousing conclusion to this post.


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